10-11-2018 – Government of California Asks NRA to Join it in Fight Against Open Carry

9-11-2018 – Judge Kavanaugh says Concealed Carry Is Not A Right – NRA Lawyer Says He’s Wrong

9-3-2018 – Professors of Law Say 9th Circuit Open Carry Decision is Now The Law – Young v. Hawaii Lawyer Says It Isn’t

8-15-2018 – Why Are Gun-Rights Lawyers Hiding From 9th Circuit Open Carry Decision?

7-30-2018 – When Will We Be Able to Openly Carry a Firearm in the 9th Circuit?

6-20-2018 – The Second Amendment is in a Coma ten years after the Heller decision

5-13-2018 – NRA Loses Fake Open Carry Lawsuit, Files Three More Concealed Carry Lawsuits

3-4-2018 – Is There a Right to Keep and Bear Arms Outside of our Home?

1-13-2018 – The Guns of February, A Story of Two Three-Judge Panels

12-13-2017 – California Open Carry Lawsuit to be Heard by 9th Circuit on February 15, 2018

11-10-2017 – The End of California Concealed Carry

10-15-2017 – Governor Brown Signs Bill Allowing Guns Inside of Gun-Free School Zones

10-12-2017 – Is There a Right to Keep and Bear Arms? 9th Circuit to Decide in 2018

9-12-2017 – NRA Open Carry Lawsuit Opposes Open Carry

9-3-2017 – Supreme Court Long Conference on September 25, 2017

8-14-2017 – A Declaration That Open Carry Is the Right

7-28-2017 – Transcript Released in NRA’s Fake Open Carry Lawsuit

7-24-2017 – 50th Anniversary of California’s Loaded Open Carry Ban

7-12-2017 – Can we Save Our Right to Keep and Bear Arms?

6-27-2017 – Supreme Court Decides to Wait for Another Second Amendment Case

6/15/2017 – The Evil Practice of Carrying Weapons Secretly

6/6/2017 – NRA Lawyer says Odds are Supreme Court will NOT take Concealed Carry Case

6/2/2017 – The NRA Lost Another Second Amendment Appeal Today

5/29/2017 – Lead Plaintiff in Supreme Court Concealed Carry Appeal says Courts are Corrupt

5/23/2017 – Peruta Concealed Carry Lawsuit has Waited 2,768 Days – Supreme Court says Wait Longer

5/20/2017 – Second Amendment Case Peruta vs. California May Strike-Out at Supreme Court

5/03/2017 – Did the NRA Take a Dive in its Fake Open Carry Lawsuit?

5/01/2017 – Supreme Court Again Silent on Second Amendment

04/22/2017 – Supreme Court Math and Concealed Carry in Peruta v. California

04/14/2017 – Federal Judge Upholds Nonexistent Gun Ban

04/12/2017 – Concealed Carry, Incest, Gay Marriage and the Supreme Court

04/05/2017 – Justice Neil Gorsuch and the Second Amendment

3/29/2017 – The Next Second Amendment Handgun Carry Case to Go Down in Flames

3/28/2017 – Federal Judge Tells NRA to Put Up or Shut Up in Open Carry Lawsuit

3/22/2017 – Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor Finally Recognizes the Second Amendment

3/13/2017 – Another Second Amendment Appeal Shot-Down by the 9th Circuit

3/10/2017 – US Supreme Court to Decide Concealed Carry Petition in Two Weeks

3/5/2017 – The Florida Supreme Court Just Handed The US Supreme Court a Second Amendment Case It Can’t Refuse

2/23/2017 – California Asks Supreme Court to Wait For Nichols v. Brown Open Carry Appeal

2/15/2017 – NRA Got Spanked for Valentine’s Day!

2/3/2017 – President Trump’s Supreme Court Nominee Neil Gorsuch

1/24/2017 -A Concealed Carry Case SCOTUS Can’t Refuse

1/23/2017 -President Trump’s Judicial Opportunity and Conundrum

1/13/2017 -NRA Tells Supreme Court Open Carry is Perverse

1/11/2017 – NRA Drops Supreme Court Concealed Carry Appeal

12/30/2016 – NRA Asks US Supreme Court To Hear Two Concealed Carry Lawsuits

12/10/2016 – National Concealed Carry Snake Oil Law Will Fail

11/29/2016 – What Lies Ahead for the Second Amendment?

11/10/2016 – The Second Amendment and President Trump

10/03/2016 – A Federal 9th Circuit Judge Finally Finds a Right to Bear Arms in Public

9/28/2016 – Are You Protected by the Fourth Amendment if You Carry a Firearm?

9/20/2016 – Two Concealed Carry Cases Fire Blanks in U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit

9/8/2016 – Another Second Amendment Appeal Crashing and Burning in 9th Circuit

8/24/2016 – Concealed Carry Snake Oil and Kool-Aid Peddlers Leave Town for DC

8/18/2016 – The NRA Files Legal Challenge To California Open Carry Bans – But Not Really

8/17/2016 – The Battle for the Second Amendment Moves to Hawaii

8/15/2016 – There is No Right to Concealed Carry – 9th Circuit Denies Full Court Petitions

8/5/2016 – Did California Lie to 11 Federal Judges in Second Amendment Lawsuits?

7/15/2016 – God Save The US From The Second Amendment Lawyers

7/8/2016 – NRA Segregation Now, Tomorrow, and Forever Position Must Fail

7/4/2016 – Try Recalling California’s Anti-Gun Politicians Before Starting Your Revolution

6/27/2016 – NRA Head Wayne LaPierre Really, Really Hates the Second Amendment

6/24/2016 – Judges Who Uphold Bans on Concealed Carry Are Not the Same as Judges Who Look the Other Way When Police Murder People in the Street

6/15/2016 – Where is the NRA’s California Open Carry Lawsuit?

6/13/2016 – What’s Next for the Right to Carry Firearms in Public?

6/8/2016 – Florida Supreme Court Justices Voice Contempt for the Second Amendment

6/5/2016 – Florida Supreme Court to Hear Second Amendment Carry Case with National Ramifications

5/17/2016 – The Second Amendment and the Concealed Carry Problem

5/11/2016 – Federal Court of Appeals Goes Berserk During Second Amendment Gun Case Hearing

5/10/2016 – California Supreme Court Shoots Itself In Foot Over Gun Case

4/25/2016 – Second Amendment Foundation Files Another Concealed Carry Lawsuit: May Backfire

4/13/2016 – Has the NRA Come to Bury the Second Amendment or to Defend It? –

4/6/2016 – Second Amendment Must Wait A Bit Longer In 9th Circuit

3/26/2016 – Concealed Carry of Concealable Firearm in a Vehicle Now a Crime of Moral Turpitude

3/21/2016 – Supreme Court decision wasn’t about stun guns – It was about the Second Amendment decision in District of Columbia v. Heller which is bad news for concealed carry

3/7/2016 – How to Stop Anti-Gun Bills in California from Becoming Law

3/3/2016 – The California Supreme Court Case Which Could Upend the Gun-Groups Concealed Carry Lawsuits

2/24/2016 – The Second Amendment – Checkmate in Four Moves?

2/10/2016 – Why California’s Waiting Period to Purchase a Firearm Will Be Upheld

2/3/2016 – Florida House of Representatives Passes Handgun Open Carry Bill

1/27/2016 – The NRA Thinks Not Getting Caught In A Lie Is The Same Thing As Telling The Truth

12/11/2015 – Why Were the San Bernardino Shooting Victims Unarmed?

11/20/2015 – Attorney Alan Gura May Have Fumbled Another Second Amendment Case

11/20/2015 – HELP WANTED: Competent Second Amendment Lawyer – Inquire Within

11/9/2015 – The Supreme Court may have Finally Found its Next Second Amendment Case

9/2/2015 – Full Derp Battle over Concealed Carry in District of Columbia

9/1/2015 – National Rifle Association Drops Lawsuit against San Francisco

8/31/2015 – The Future of the Second Amendment in California and Hawaii

8/25/2015 – Yes, America, the Second Amendment is a Universal Right!

8/14/2015 – Will this be the Supreme Court’s Next Second Amendment Case?

7/3/2015 – The Future of Open Carry in California Looks Bright

6/16/2015 – State of California Concedes Second Amendment Extends Outside the Home

6/8/2015 – The Second Amendment is Now in the Hands of these Eleven Judges

6/8/2015 – Supreme Court Won’t Hear Second Amendment Cases Until there is a Circuit Split

5/29/2015 – NRA Opposes Open Carry – NRA Now Takes Credit for New Texas Handgun Open Carry Law

5/26/2015 – Four Years Ago Today: Is Open Carry The Right Guaranteed By The Second Amendment

5/18/2015 – Why the Second Amendment Keeps Losing in Court

5/2/2015 – Black Panther Party Invades California Capitol – 48 Years Ago Today

5/1/2015 – The NRA Rearranges Deck Chairs on the Titanic

4/22/2015 – Chief Judge of 9th Circuit Court of Appeals Grants Motion of Lone Voice Defending the Second Amendment Open Carry Right

4/11/2015 – An Open Letter to the Orange County Register’s Editorial on Concealed Carry

4/03/2015 – Another Shoe Drops on the California Concealed Carry Lawsuits

2/27/2015 – Federal Judge Says No Second Amendment Right To Own Firearms

12/6/2014 – The First Shoe Drops On California Concealed Carry Lawsuits

11/30/2014 – Open Carry Gunfight At The California Corral: Start Of Year Four

11/30/2014 – California Open Carry Gunfight Begins Its Fourth Year

11/12/2014 – California Concealed Carry Permits – The Fat Lady Still Hasn’t Sung in Peruta v. San Diego

10/17/2014 – It may be Legal to Carry a Handgun in the Nation’s Capitol by Christmas

10/3/2014 – Another California Concealed Carry Lawsuit Loses before a Federal Judge

8/18/2014 – District of Columbia asks Court for More Time to Enact New Handgun Carry Ban

8/13/2014 – California Concealed Carry Case Peruta v. San Diego – Poised to Move or Stuck in the Mud?

7/30/2014 – Federal Judge Reluctantly Stays his Ruling in DC Handgun Ban

7/28/2014 – The DC Handgun Carry Decision – Throwing Victory into the Jaws of Defeat

7/26/2014 – Ban on Carrying Firearms in Public is Unconstitutional says DC Judge

7/21/2014 – The non-repeal of D.C., Gun-Control

7/2/2014 – US Supreme Court Still Silent On Second Amendment

6/28/2014 – Federal Judge Says Minorities Barred From Bringing Civil Rights Lawsuits

6/7/2014 – The NRA Supports Open Carry Except When The NRA Opposes Open Carry

6/2/2014 – NRA Lawyer Says California Concealed Carry Decision Likely To Be Overturned

6/1/2014 – NRA leadership Comes Out Of The Closet In Its Opposition To Open Carry

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Drake v. Jerejian No. 13-827 Cert Denied



Update May 5, 2014 –  I’m sorry to say that the Supreme Court denied the cert petition.  The Drake case is dead.

Update May 3, 2014 – Drake published a supplemental brief on the Peruta decision on February 25th.  No one, except for the 9 justices who meet in secret conference, knows why Drake was relisted.  Given that SCOTUS has denied every cert petition which involves concealed carry, it is not unreasonable to surmise that the 9th Circuit Peruta decision has played a significant part in why Drake was not denied cert outright.  I have published an article on the ramifications of the 9th Circuit May 1st Order in Peruta as has James Ching at  If you likewise surmise that the 9th Circuit decision in Peruta is relevant to the Drake cert petition, it would not hurt to become familiar with the Peruta case by clicking here and reading the pleadings.

Update May 2, 2014 – The US Supreme Court has closed for the day without issuing any orders and so we will not know the outcome of Drake until Monday morning at 6:30am PST.  If the relisting of Drake is because of the Peruta decision then Drake may very will be relisted again.  More so because of the May 1st Order in Peruta suggesting that the Peruta decision may be rendered moot and vacated.

Update April 28, 2014 – Drake has been relisted again:

Apr 2 2014 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 18, 2014.
Apr 21 2014 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 25, 2014.
Apr 28 2014 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of May 2, 2014.

Update April 21, 2014 – Drake v. Jerejian has been rescheduled for the Conference of April 25, 2014.  A snapshot of how the “cert pool” works is this. If no justice shows an interest in a case then it is placed on the “dead list” and automatically denied after it is scheduled for conference. If at least one justice shows interest in a case then it is reviewed in conference. The reason Drake was postponed today could be because of the 9th CCA cases or it could simply be because the justices did not get around to voting whether or not to take the case last Friday.  It takes the vote of 4 justices to agree to hear a case.

Drake was one of 13 cases redistributed from last Friday’s conference.

Update April 18, 2014 – Today is the day the nine justices of the US Supreme Court decide whether or not to grant the cert petition, deny the cert petition or postpone the decision to a future date.  We will know the court’s decision on Monday.

Update April 2, 2014 – The Federal docket now shows a couple of updates.  Alan Gura’s reply brief was filed yesterday and today the case was distributed for conference on April 18th.  Curiously, Kachalsky and Woollard were likewise scheduled, neither of which made it past the first conference and neither of which did the Supreme Court request a Brief in Opposition.  This is Alan Gura’s third time at bat where he keeps making the same arguments and where he keeps missing.  We should know on April 21st whether or not this is strike three for Gura and the SAF.

Update March 14, 2014 – 1 – Although the docket still doesn’t show a BIO, here is a Brief in Opposition which is appearing at various websites.  Here is the Supplemental Brief filed by Gura regarding the Peruta case.  Here is a link to the Drake case page on SCOTUSblog.  Assuming that Gura files his Reply Brief on the 28th then the case could be reviewed in conference as early as April 4th with a decision on whether or not to grant cert posted the following Monday.  After reviewing the rules of the court it would be in Gura’s interest to file his Reply Brief before the 28th.  The timing of his Reply Brief does not affect the day his cert petition and brief in opposition are distributed for a particular conference day.

Update March 14, 2014 – The Drake docket shows neither a waiver nor a BIO filed.  Today is the deadline.  I called the SCOTUS PIO and after getting past the machine and transferred to a “human” another machine came online and told me nobody was available, and to call back latter.  It then disconnected.  No BIO (Brief in Opposition) plus no response requested equals automatic denial of cert.

Update March 11, 2014 – Three days before the deadline to file a Brief in Opposition (BIO) to the cert petition and the Supreme Court still has not requested one to be filed.  Sorry folks, Drake goes on the “dead list” for automatic denial of cert.

Update March 4, 2014 –  Here we are ten days before the deadline to file a Brief in Opposition (BIO) to the cert petition and the Supreme Court still has not requested one to be filed.  BIOs are optional.  Typically, a waiver to file a response is filed in lieu of a BIO.  Failure to request a BIO indicates a lack of interest by the High Court.  Cert petitions without a BIO and which did not have a BIO requested are invariably denied.  Even cases in which a BIO was requested are often denied but the combination of no BIO and no request for one by the Court is fatal.  It is highly unlikely the Court is going to request a BIO this late in the day.

Update February 28, 2014 –  Alan Gura filed a supplemental brief in Drake v. Jerejian.  I can only assume it is in regards to Peruta v. San Diego.  The US Supreme Court still has not requested a Brief in Opposition (BIO).  If no BIO is requested then the chances of cert being granted are somewhere between nil and none.

I’ve created this page because the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) petition for certiorari in Drake v. Jerejian went from dead on arrival to having a possible heartbeat with the recent 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision in Peruta v. San Diego which was published on February 13, 2014.

The Drake case is for all intents and purposes a rehash of Kachalsky v. Cacase and Woolard v. Gallagher.  The US Supreme Court denied cert in both of those cases and but for the Peruta decision, the High Court would have undoubtedly denied cert to Drake as well.  It still may.

The Cert Petition in Drake was filed on January 9, 2014 after being granted two extensions in time to file the petition by Justice Alito.  The Court ordered an extension of time to file the response to March 14, 2014 which means that even if cert is granted, which is still unlikely, the case will not be heard until next term and a decision would likely not be forthcoming until June of 2015, if at all.


For an informative article on how appeals to the US Supreme Court work -> click here.  Here is another good article, here is a much older article.


To read the Petition for Certiorari in Drake v. Jerejian, click here.

To read the BRIEF OF JUDICIAL EDUCATION PROJECT AS AMICUS CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF PETITIONERS filed in support of Drake v. Jerejian, click here.




To read the Brief Amicus Curiae of Gun Owners Foundation, Gun Owners of America, Inc., U.S. Justice Foundation, Lincoln Institute for Research and Education, Abraham Lincoln Foundation, Institute on the Constitution, Conservative Legal Defense and Education Fund, and Policy Analysis Center in Support of Petitioners filed in support of Drake v. Jerejian, click here.



Don’t be impressed by the number of Amicus Briefs filed in this case.  Statistically, cert petitions with Amicus briefs are more likely to be granted than those without but not by a wide margin.  The better indicator is whether or not the Supreme Court asks for a response.  If no request for a response is made then the case is D.O.A. and the Supreme Court still has not asked for a response in Drake v. Jerejian.

Here is the SCOTUSblog link to Drake v. Jerejian